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Sugar Mama

By Judy McGuire

April 2, 2008

Kirsten Ulve

Dear Dategirl,

I'm a 40-year-old, attractive, successful woman and have been divorced for six years. I've had several serious relationships since my divorce, and I notice a pattern I have been perpetuating: I keep dating (and was married to) men with no money or ambition, and I end up being their sugar mama.

I own a house and a nice car and have worked really hard for what I have. Although I'm a nurturing soul, which I suppose is what attracts these guys to me in the first place, I have finally had enough of the taking, when all I do is give both emotionally and financially.

The men I date are attractive and charming, and somehow I talk myself into the fact that that is enough and even though they have no money, that is OK. I am not hung up about needing to be with someone who is rich; I just don't like feeling taken advantage of.

I've talked to friends about this, and they think I'm overreacting. My current boyfriend is cute, smart, and funny, but has a crappy job and no plans for the future. He lives in an apartment and owns very little. He treats me really well and is sweet and complimentary, but I can't help but feel that of course he's into me, because I pay for most of our meals and entertainment, and when we go out I drive (because his car is too much of a mess for me to drive in, apparently).

My question is, should I try to change my attitude and just be thankful to have a nice guy in my life, and make plans after dinner, so I won't have to open my wallet every time we meet up? Or should I just go with my discomfort and try to find the elusive, successful, nice guy, who wants a partnership with an equally successful gal?Sugar Mama

As someone who lives in a rented apartment, owns very little unless you count books, and has a retirement account so tiny I'd best die young, I'm trying hard not to be insulted. And I don't even own a car, so I'd be taking you on dates via bus. Harrumph!

Anyway, stuffing my indignation back into the closet and putting on my advice cap....

My answer: People treat you how you let them. Quit reaching for the check all the time. In a relationship, both parties should give as much as they're capable of. If he makes less money, then he takes you to less schmancy restaurants, and you suck it up and eat falafel instead of filet mignon because he's trying. And if you insist on linen tablecloths and fusion cuisine, well, then, pull out the platinum card because that meal's on you.

If ambition and success are so important to you (and believe me, nothing wrong with that at all), I wonder how you keep ending up with the exact opposite of that. Do you think maybe you pick these financially deficient men because you enjoy the sense of power being the alpha wallet provides? Or maybe you secretly think that money is the only thing you have to offer. Have you ever given either of those scenarios a good, hard think?

Again, let me stress that I'm not putting you down for this, just wondering how much you've thought about it. Personally, I had a hard enough time locating kind, smart, cute, and funny without worrying about what was in the wallet. It's only sheer happenstance that I wound up with someone who makes more money than me—though he's not rich by any stretch.

One very realistic and admirable thing about you is that you're not asking me how you can transform a slacker into a captain of industry. You just need to figure out if a fat bank account is more important than a cute smile, a sharp wit, and a kind word when you need one. Because there's usually a trade-off.

And let me leave you with this—rich, successful men have been dating hot, broke chicks for aeons. Why do none of these guys ever write me?

Judy McGuire is the author of How Not to Date. Dating dilemmas? Write Dategirl at dategirl@seattleweekly.com or c/o Seattle Weekly, 1008 Western Ave., Ste. 300, Seattle, WA 98104.

Comments (12)

Reader Comments

1. Comment by YoMaRiva — April 02, 2008 @ 9:20AM
I think your response was the best I have ever read. Ofcourse the question was most honest too. I am also single and independent in every sense of the word. It has taken me a few years of rotten work on myself to be at a stage that guys I am with do not bother about my wallet and nor do I about them. The balance is returning. I know any guy who feeds off me in any way is not for me and i drive a hard bargain for an equal relationship and ofcourse it remains to be seen but I think a few guys are upto the job. Take care girls !
2. Comment by Phil — April 02, 2008 @ 9:21AM
What a cheapskate.
3. Comment by James Early — April 02, 2008 @ 2:51PM
Is something evolutionary at work? We've been breeding for co-dependent couplery for about 5 millenia. Is it possible women will always feel a little odd about "providing", in the material sense, for men?
4. Comment by does it matter — April 02, 2008 @ 6:10PM
Your last comment was funny.

yah rich men have been dating broke chicks for eons. Reason-chicks for eons had no access to wealth and power that belonged and still belongs to rich males.

and why has it become so unfashionable to actually move one's ass and get a job.
5. Comment by Salad — April 02, 2008 @ 6:49PM
Ha! My boyfriend jokes that someday we'll be married and I'll be the breadwinner working as a research scientist and he'll stay home and work on his cars. But he'll work on mine too, maybe restore a "secretary's" '60s Mustang for me. That'd be pretty sweet actually.
6. Comment by Cleopatra — April 02, 2008 @ 10:32PM
I think the lady should only feel worried if the guy would does this stuff if he HAS money.
Some of us have ambition and money - some of us don't. Diversity is what makes the world interesting - a trade-off is what makes it workable.
7. Comment by Thea Bella — April 03, 2008 @ 11:26AM
She might try dating the opposite, a prosperous, motivated man to see how she feels about the equation and, most importantly, herself.
8. Comment by Helen — April 03, 2008 @ 2:11PM
Things aren't always the way they appear.
When I married my husband, all I really knew was that he was a person of real substance. But I had no idea how ambitious he really was. I just knew he was a survivor. When I met him he had just relocated,he didn't know how to drive, did'nt have a job, or a bank acct, no credit, nothing of anything material value except guts. Now he's making 50k a year. Of course he still dresses like a homeless man, but don't judge a book by it's cover is really true sometimes.
9. Comment by Candela — April 04, 2008 @ 10:37AM
Her comment was that she keeps dating men without money OR ambition. It's no sin to be broke. We've all been there. But someone who has no ambition to change that condition shouldn't be someone that she wastes her time on. If you're 40, successful AND attractive and still can't find a man who has ambition, just where are you lookin', girlie?
10. Comment by Sondari — April 06, 2008 @ 9:40AM
I have always been the breadwinner in our family (my husband is a musician with an on-again, off-again career). What I didn't expect was how great it would be to have him be an equal partner in parenting our daughter, for him to be able to easily come with me anytime I traveled abroad for research or work, and for him to be able to care for his parents EVERY DAY now that they're old and stricken with Alzheimer's. I am so lucky! YES, I was uncomfortable that he was so unambitious (and still am). But men have been supporting unambitious women for decades, who nonetheless make their quality of life very high. Turnabout is fair play.
11. Comment by yomariva — April 08, 2008 @ 6:37PM
Sondari, very fine comment.
12. Comment by Elizabetha — May 07, 2008 @ 1:59PM
The main question here would be how does "funny, attractive, cute, charming and smart" treat her? I have been married to faccas and experienced the "no ambition, job or money" and then some. The main reason for that was that I couldn't fathom deserving someone that had all his shit together, so I settled at one time for faccas on the outside, everybody liked him but what I saw at home was a different story.

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